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Nov 29, 2017 7:13 AM

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RE1031 said:
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is this saying u know how many there are? =u=
You're kidding right?
tbh 5 was a weird number, why didnt u just go with 6?
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
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Nov 29, 2017 7:15 AM

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RE1031 said:
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ur reading me over lack of contribution. u srsly want me to die early in a 24-player game, why? why me over someone like say...Rinto?

was the defensiveness self-preserving? I've seen him say he's willing to be lynched a few times. neutral for now tho. but def not a scumread.
I trust your reads and ability to get scum lynched, but only when you're town, and I haven't seen anything to prove that yet. Actually, even if you're scum and he's town, obviously not.
It just feels like you're out of it. And I'll keep bringing it up, but that was a 180 you did on Soda without him even posting anything new, which is completely unnatural.
He did say it'd be first time he'd be mislynched if he does get lynched, but that's technically not something I should read into. Otherwise, yeah, townie reaction. It wasn't directly OMGUS defensiveness, but me and Tainted are in his lynch pile.

the read on Soda is a pending consideration. which is why I kept my opinions reserved. u conveniently scumread me for answering ur question and going back on my initial townlean? ur just fishing for answers to paint in a bad light.
and if u said there's no reason to read into a few posts off someone, why do u feel the need to read into his defensive/omgus lynch pile?
Nov 29, 2017 7:15 AM

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lastwhisper31 said:
RE1031 said:
You're kidding right?
tbh 5 was a weird number, why didnt u just go with 6?
I'm sort of basing this off of Pyro's Rainbow Six mafia game, since that had 20 players and 4 mafia (and an SK). Not sure if I should be factoring in an SK in this game yet though.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Nov 29, 2017 7:16 AM

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Astros said:
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@ScarletCelestial editing is not illegal here, and if I edit something other than grammar i will place it next to a Edit: tag...

I got 20 more mins till I wont be able to post till at a minimum of 1pm... which is an hour before phase change
Could you try your hand at explaining the joke to me? Things I don't understand tend to eat away at my attention until I do.


Everytime Ive seen a mason they've died early and were alone thats literally all there is to it... can really tell you why I added that weird depression bit, but at the time I was probably thinking about how emotional of a player Ruu is... lol
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Nov 29, 2017 7:17 AM

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@lastwhisper31 you never stated a reason why you voted for me..
is it seriously because of my answer to Astros' question?
Nov 29, 2017 7:18 AM

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Phraze said:
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I trust your reads and ability to get scum lynched, but only when you're town, and I haven't seen anything to prove that yet. Actually, even if you're scum and he's town, obviously not.
It just feels like you're out of it. And I'll keep bringing it up, but that was a 180 you did on Soda without him even posting anything new, which is completely unnatural.
He did say it'd be first time he'd be mislynched if he does get lynched, but that's technically not something I should read into. Otherwise, yeah, townie reaction. It wasn't directly OMGUS defensiveness, but me and Tainted are in his lynch pile.

the read on Soda is a pending consideration. which is why I kept my opinions reserved. u conveniently scumread me for answering ur question and going back on my initial townlean? ur just fishing for answers to paint in a bad light.
and if u said there's no reason to read into a few posts off someone, why do u feel the need to read into his defensive/omgus lynch pile?
There's a difference between fluff posts and posts that give serious reads. A huge difference, actually. I'm also not reading off his pile alone, I'm still waiting for an explanation for it. But you asked whether the defensiveness was self-preserving, so I felt it worth mentioning.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Nov 29, 2017 7:18 AM

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lastwhisper31 said:
Everytime Ive seen a mason they've died early and were alone thats literally all there is to it... can really tell you why I added that weird depression bit, but at the time I was probably thinking about how emotional of a player Ruu is... lol
You mean here?

It would also kill @Ruu too. (In game terms, she would kill herself out of depression anguish)
Nov 29, 2017 7:19 AM

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Astros said:
Change Vote. -> Vote: RE1031
So... Are you going to explain why? Or are you just going to continue ignoring me?
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Nov 29, 2017 7:20 AM

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Tainted said:
@lastwhisper31 you never stated a reason why you voted for me..
is it seriously because of my answer to Astros' question?
yes, and your tone..., reminds me of ur last game... and Im not about to play ring around the rosie with how your brain works...

I am a firm believer in sometimes scum hide in plain site...
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Nov 29, 2017 7:25 AM

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RE1031 said:
Phraze said:

the read on Soda is a pending consideration. which is why I kept my opinions reserved. u conveniently scumread me for answering ur question and going back on my initial townlean? ur just fishing for answers to paint in a bad light.
and if u said there's no reason to read into a few posts off someone, why do u feel the need to read into his defensive/omgus lynch pile?
There's a difference between fluff posts and posts that give serious reads. A huge difference, actually. I'm also not reading off his pile alone, I'm still waiting for an explanation for it. But you asked whether the defensiveness was self-preserving, so I felt it worth mentioning.
Also, Soda has posted nothing since then. He's been offline for a long time. There was no reason for you to take back the read, and I don't think your reasoning for having it in the first place was great either.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Nov 29, 2017 7:26 AM

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lastwhisper31 said:
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@lastwhisper31 you never stated a reason why you voted for me..
is it seriously because of my answer to Astros' question?
yes, and your tone..., reminds me of ur last game... and Im not about to play ring around the rosie with how your brain works...

I am a firm believer in sometimes scum hide in plain site...
Well fine if that's what you think but. I was a towny last game :P
Nov 29, 2017 7:33 AM

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Astros said:
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Everytime Ive seen a mason they've died early and were alone thats literally all there is to it... can really tell you why I added that weird depression bit, but at the time I was probably thinking about how emotional of a player Ruu is... lol
You mean here?

It would also kill @Ruu too. (In game terms, she would kill herself out of depression anguish)


@lastwhisper31 Don't joke about depression like that. Just don't.
Nov 29, 2017 7:33 AM

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Phraze said:

- RE being expectant of me is weird. haven't seen Abu comment yet. possible teaming.
Don't see the correlation.
Nov 29, 2017 7:35 AM

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ScarletCelestial said:
@lastwhisper31 Don't joke about depression like that. Just don't.
Your input is unneeded, thank you.
Nov 29, 2017 7:36 AM

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Astros said:
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@lastwhisper31 Don't joke about depression like that. Just don't.
Your input is unneeded, thank you.


I'm sorry, it's just that it's a sore subject for me and I hate when people joke about it.
Nov 29, 2017 7:37 AM

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ScarletCelestial said:
Astros said:
You mean here?



@lastwhisper31 Don't joke about depression like that. Just don't.
It was actually century who said it. Think it was flavor about him and Ruu being masons/lovers. Maybe something that happened in the anime.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Nov 29, 2017 7:38 AM

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ScarletCelestial said:
I'm sorry, it's just that it's a sore subject for me and I hate when people joke about it.
It's fine. You may not know, but there is a mechanic in Mafia, where a Player's Role makes them commit suicide due to factors in the game. It is not a joke. "In game terms" is meant to be taken literally.
Nov 29, 2017 7:38 AM

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Phraze said:
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I'm not really buying this tbh...
yeah sure. what else? I rly did watch the anime lol. and that was prior to receiving my role so its NAI
The fact that you're assuming quite a lot of things in order to make that claim, yet you made it without hesitation.
Really makes it sound like you knew his flavour and role already.
Nov 29, 2017 7:39 AM

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ScarletCelestial said:
Astros said:
Your input is unneeded, thank you.


I'm sorry, it's just that it's a sore subject for me and I hate when people joke about it.
ya I apologize after Astro requoted it, I couldn't believe I actually said that...
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Nov 29, 2017 7:40 AM

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RE1031 said:
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is this saying u know how many there are? =u=
You're kidding right?
nope. why would u say 5? it doesn't equate in the 4:1 calculation. the only possibility is if ur scum who knows the numbers.

RE1031 said:
I'm sort of basing this off of Pyro's Rainbow Six mafia game, since that had 20 players and 4 mafia (and an SK). Not sure if I should be factoring in an SK in this game yet though.
if u did think of it, why didn't u say "counting in tpr"' or smthing? and if ur trying to argue that angle: we're in a game of 24, not 20.

RE1031 said:
RE1031 said:
There's a difference between fluff posts and posts that give serious reads. A huge difference, actually. I'm also not reading off his pile alone, I'm still waiting for an explanation for it. But you asked whether the defensiveness was self-preserving, so I felt it worth mentioning.
Also, Soda has posted nothing since then. He's been offline for a long time. There was no reason for you to take back the read, and I don't think your reasoning for having it in the first place was great either.
what accomplishes more is adding pressure via vote. granted, Soda might be just not reactive to pressure, but that helped me get a read on him. u haven't interacted with him and just base a scumread off smthing NAI - omgus - that can come from either town or scum. not buying it.
as I said, my read on Soda was reserved. there was nothing concrete about my opinions yet, but I was asked about it and gave the answer. I didn't give out reads yet as it was too early, and the closest I got was Soda. srsly.

hmmm I think ur referring to Last in 'defensiveness'? he does it either alignment. its the way he uses it that u read off. just cuz he's 'overly defensive' doesn't mean he's scum.
Nov 29, 2017 7:40 AM

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RE1031 said:
It was actually century who said it. Think it was flavor about him and Ruu being masons/lovers. Maybe something that happened in the anime.
Thank you again friend. For meddling with my actions.
Nov 29, 2017 7:40 AM

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Astros said:
ScarletCelestial said:
I'm sorry, it's just that it's a sore subject for me and I hate when people joke about it.
It's fine. You may not know, but there is a mechanic in Mafia, where a Player's Role makes them commit suicide due to factors in the game. It is not a joke. "In game terms" is meant to be taken literally.


Oh, sorry. In that case what I said was a little weird. My bad.
Nov 29, 2017 7:40 AM

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@wen294 are u saying phraze is aligned with Ruu/century?
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Nov 29, 2017 7:40 AM

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Phraze said:
ok lynch me.
You're annoying me with this shit.

Vote change: Phraze
Nov 29, 2017 7:41 AM

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wen294 said:
Phraze said:
ok lynch me.
You're annoying me with this shit.

Vote change: Phraze
hmm omgus much
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Nov 29, 2017 7:42 AM

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lastwhisper31 said:
ya I apologize after Astro requoted it, I couldn't believe I actually said that...
If so, why did you not simply reply to me? You have yet to explain the bit I am asking for, regardless of your misinterpretation of my previous post. Which I will admit was poorly formatted.

It however, was not poorly formatted.

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Nov 29, 2017 7:42 AM

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Astros said:
RE1031 said:
It was actually century who said it. Think it was flavor about him and Ruu being masons/lovers. Maybe something that happened in the anime.
Thank you again friend. For meddling with my actions.

Shots fired!!! (fight! fight! fight!)]
Nov 29, 2017 7:45 AM

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wen294 said:
Phraze said:

- RE being expectant of me is weird. haven't seen Abu comment yet. possible teaming.
Don't see the correlation.
its more of an offgame thing. Abu finds it easy to sort RE out.

wen294 said:
Phraze said:
yeah sure. what else? I rly did watch the anime lol. and that was prior to receiving my role so its NAI
The fact that you're assuming quite a lot of things in order to make that claim, yet you made it without hesitation.
Really makes it sound like you knew his flavour and role already.
if u say so. watch the series and then come back say the same thing.
Nov 29, 2017 7:46 AM
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I see Phraze's train is bulking up fast, there's scum there, definitely.

Let's start with @RE1031 can you post your top 3 scum reads with explanations? Doesn't have to be an article, just a summary.
Nov 29, 2017 7:46 AM

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wen294 said:
Phraze said:
ok lynch me.
You're annoying me with this shit.

Vote change: Phraze
oh. worried u couldn't pin me down with a lame excuse?
Nov 29, 2017 7:47 AM

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Astros said:
lastwhisper31 said:
ya I apologize after Astro requoted it, I couldn't believe I actually said that...
If so, why did you not simply reply to me? You have yet to explain the bit I am asking for, regardless of your misinterpretation of my previous post. Which I will admit was poorly formatted.

It however, was not poorly formatted.

#1125
I don't understand what bit your asking me to explain? Sorry...
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Nov 29, 2017 7:48 AM

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off again~ will be around for phase change
Nov 29, 2017 7:49 AM

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Trying to get an updated vote count for you all.
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Nov 29, 2017 7:50 AM

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lastwhisper31 said:

@Gwendolly if you live I want your answer to that post day 2... since we cant talk game stuff during night

I can also answer now since it has no value anymore. I believe Abu was fishing for reactions. Not caring at all but wanting to turn up at EoD would seem scummy as hell. ScumAbu wouldnt even risk a move like this (atleast not on D1) since it could have turned real quick against him. No one took the bait anyway.

on a sidenote:

@RE1031 why phraze? at this point are you voting scum leans or just trying to keep the already big trains on top?
I like your answer here. Yea wouldnt want to see you get lynched today
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Nov 29, 2017 7:50 AM

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ScarletCelestial said:
My reads (part 1 because there is way too much to do):
Key:
Blue = Neutral
Green = Town lean
Red = Scum lean













wat.
Why do you know cent and Ruu can't possibly be mafia? And yet still take into account the possibility that one of them flips mafia?
And you say Ruu has no reason to lie unless she's anti-town thus she's town??
But if she's anti town she would lie and you don't know if she's lying so it's still entirely possible for her to be anti-town. I don't get it.
Rest of your reads i kinda get where you're coming from. Aside from the fuss you raise about last editing a post. Can just be to fix a spelling mistake he made that he noticed later on or something. I edit posts myself all the time for minor things like spelling/grammar and whatnot.
Nov 29, 2017 7:51 AM

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lastwhisper31 said:
@wen294 are u saying phraze is aligned with Ruu/century?
Pretty much yeah.
Nov 29, 2017 7:52 AM

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Phraze said:
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You're kidding right?
nope. why would u say 5? it doesn't equate in the 4:1 calculation. the only possibility is if ur scum who knows the numbers.

RE1031 said:
I'm sort of basing this off of Pyro's Rainbow Six mafia game, since that had 20 players and 4 mafia (and an SK). Not sure if I should be factoring in an SK in this game yet though.
if u did think of it, why didn't u say "counting in tpr"' or smthing? and if ur trying to argue that angle: we're in a game of 24, not 20.
Which is why I said 5 mafia and not 4. Adding one more for the extra 4 players. It's a guess, my point was more that 8 mafia in a game of 24 is excessive.
what accomplishes more is adding pressure via vote. granted, Soda might be just not reactive to pressure, but that helped me get a read on him. u haven't interacted with him and just base a scumread off smthing NAI - omgus - that can come from either town or scum. not buying it.
as I said, my read on Soda was reserved. there was nothing concrete about my opinions yet, but I was asked about it and gave the answer. I didn't give out reads yet as it was too early, and the closest I got was Soda. srsly.

hmmm I think ur referring to Last in 'defensiveness'? he does it either alignment. its the way he uses it that u read off. just cuz he's 'overly defensive' doesn't mean he's scum.
Soda hasn't been online. How can you expect him to be reactive to anything?
Do you mean Soda when you say I haven't interacted with him? (Because I've definitely interacted with last...) I'm hardly scum reading him. It was just a vibe I got in the beginning of the game that I've basically abandoned because I have nothing new to read him off of.
And I think you misunderstand why I'm scumreading last to begin with. It's not because of OMGUS. It's a paranoid defensiveness when I agreed with Ruu's reasoning for townreading Astros and he jumped in complaining that he was getting scumread for the same thing when they weren't using the same reasoning.
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logic340 said:
Trying to get an updated vote count for you all.


Thanks would be appreciated <.< with a timer too? I'll post it for now: Timer
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Nov 29, 2017 7:53 AM

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lastwhisper31 said:
I don't understand what bit your asking me to explain? Sorry...
Let me simplify it then. The bold

Im not one to be energentic claims like Ruu's and Centuries' but I'll leave it be for now...

and its completely possible to have vanillas in role madness, maybe not this one... but if there are back ups, then technically until they get their roles, they are for intent in purpose considered vanilla...

Someone telling "role" to do X always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Don't do it unless you're confirmed town - and even then I think people should let others decide for themselves. im not telling anyone what to do, I am just saying whats logical in this situation, if century never gave us a reason to believe he was town, then shooting him would remove him from the PoE...


#906 Please explain what the bold is referring to or your reasons for making note of that. Before the post you were not discussing, from what I could see, Roles and people telling them what they should do. I made mention of such posts prior when I asked about it.

#1117 It has been formatted better for clarity.

Edit: Post #1117 not #117
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Phraze said:
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You're annoying me with this shit.

Vote change: Phraze
oh. worried u couldn't pin me down with a lame excuse?
Couldn't be bothered~
Nov 29, 2017 7:55 AM

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Trying to get an updated vote count for you all.
All hail our lord and saviour: the updated vote count.
Nov 29, 2017 7:58 AM

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@wen294

I said cannot possibly be mafia right now. Bad phrasing I guess.

Meant that I don't think it could be proven unless one of the two got killed.
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logic340 said:
Trying to get an updated vote count for you all.
Going to just place my crude, unofficial version here in spoilers to see if I'm not cut out to track votes >_>.

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I'm in class, but the bold wasn't said by me unless I am mistaken... Sometimes I quote people by using bold...
@astros
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
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@Phraze top 3 scum reads with explanations now.
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@wen294

I said cannot possibly be mafia right now. Bad phrasing I guess.

Meant that I don't think it could be proven unless one of the two got killed.
That's the case for everybody.
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lastwhisper31 said:
I'm in class, but the bold wasn't said by me unless I am mistaken... Sometimes I quote people by using bold...
@astros
#906

Edit: You should stop doing that... it's a terrible habit.

#745 You were quoting coromandel.
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Astros said:
lastwhisper31 said:
I'm in class, but the bold wasn't said by me unless I am mistaken... Sometimes I quote people by using bold...
@astros
#906
ok again, I really can not answer this, so if u scum read me for it... Then there's not much I can help with... I'll be back in 2ish hours
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
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wen294 said:
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@wen294

I said cannot possibly be mafia right now. Bad phrasing I guess.

Meant that I don't think it could be proven unless one of the two got killed.
That's the case for everybody.


Let's say cent gets lynched. He flips mason. Ruu = confirmed town.

cent gets lynched. Flips mafia. Ruu = confirmed mafia.

Basically, they're always going to be the same alignment and their alibi can only be confirmed at death. Ergo, I'm leaving it for now as I think there are better lynches out there.
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I see Phraze's train is bulking up fast, there's scum there, definitely.

Let's start with @RE1031 can you post your top 3 scum reads with explanations? Doesn't have to be an article, just a summary.
Phraze - for a poorly justified town, then scum read on Soda. Certain conclusions/assumptions make little to no sense, as pointed out by wen.
last (50/50 though, I'm reconsidering) - Dislike his defensiveness without understanding the entire situation. Don't see many posts of value from him. But I have a history of not reading him accurately, so prepping for being wrong here.
I don't have a strong third scum read, at least anywhere near my first two, but the whole Ruu/century business needs to be cleared up.
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